PPG Problem Spreadsheet

Frame
Prop & Cage
Harness & Foot Bar
Throttle Cable
Block & Cylinder
Engine
Muffler
Battery & Charger
Starter & Electric
Fuel Tank


Frame

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Easily tips in use. Scoot the seat of the harness under the machine a bit.   Tom Ouvry ouvryt@karmanos.org GT, Plus
Hair line cracks develop below where the harness clips in at the frames cross members. Welding friend reinforced my frame. This is the single most common location for stress cracks to develop during hard landings. equinox@bignet.net Plus
Easily tips in storage.
  1. Glue a 3/4" high x 1" wide wooden slat to the storage table, and set the unit so that the front of the frame sits on it. That leans it just a bit and seems to really do the trick. 
  2. Take the harness off.
Tom Ouvry ouvryt@karmanos.org GT, Plus
         

 

Prop & Cage

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Redrive breaks off case when props hit ground. Ground strikes with wood prop will shear the redrive off the case. Doesn't happen with the powerfins as they are the weaker link.   Scott Fisher skyrider@cfl.rr.com  
Prop tip hits edge of cage. Add a Velcro strap from each side of the frame to the inner portion of the prop cage. This adds an outward flex to the cage keeping prop tip clearance a bit further away from the cage. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
GT
Leading edge of blades are worn or damaged.
  1. Try repairing the edges with Devcon in the black color. It is a two part epoxy available in the U.S.
  2. Easily repaired with some epoxy, baking soda and a little touch up paint.
http://www.devcon.com Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au
 

John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com 

 
Tip of prop is broken. Make a template out of cardboard from a
good one and stick it on the broken one with scotch tape and fill with superglue and a grain or 3 of baking soda.
Warning: Although highly unlikely, repairs of this nature have been known to fly off and damage the risers. Terry
onebigfly@hotmail.com 

Alastair
ARFMacK@aol.com 

 
Cage and mesh are dirty from muffler exhaust. Use WD-40 to remove the soot.   John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com 
 

 

Harness & Foot Bar

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Frame wears through harness on hard points. Add a piece of "craft leather" the kind that you get for kids projects or at a hobby shop to the back of the harness.  About 8 by 10 inches and use double sided tape to stick it on.

Move and remount ignition coil, module and starter solenoid.

  Gus
grant4ever@aol.com

Neil France n.france@ntlworld.com

 
Foot rest is in the way or falls out on take-off and landing. Attach velcro on the middle of the bar and on the seat.   Maurice "Mo" Sheldon
ppgmo@inorbit.com
 
Foot bar can work its way through the cage into the props.
  1. Shorten the foot bar lengths by 0.5 - 1.0 inches.
  2. Run a second line of elastic shock cord through the
    bar, to retract it partially when not in use.
     

 

Throttle cable

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Red velcro hand strap on throttle breaks at the heat-stitch. Attach a piece of velcro to the throttle grip and a piece onto the palm of your flying gloves.  This has proven to be more comfortable than the strap, stays in place better, plus its easier to handle the
toggles and a/b lines during take-offs.
  Mark
hopster_x@yahoo.com
 
Throttle cable can work its' way back through the prop cage lines and into the prop.
  1. Use cable ties to route the throttle cable a bit
    higher up the frame before allowing it to float free.
  2. Add a Velcro strap mid-cable which you loop and then lock around your bicep.
On longer flights I'll let go of the steering toggles and rest my hands on my lap. When I do this there is enough slack in my throttle cable that it can work its' way back through the prop cage lines and into the prop. This can also happen when doing steep turns to the right and the toggle has been pulled down to waist height.    

 

Block & Cylinder

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Spark plug threads in the aluminum cylinder head stripped due to high CHT.
  1. The installation of a heli-coil.
  2. There is a new larger cylinder head available.
  3. Making sure that the mixture is properly adjusted.
  4. Do not over tighten the plug as the threads can strip easily.
The plug blew out (in flight). Taking a wrench to a hot spark plug/cylinder head can weaken the alum threads in the head and start a strip-out, which can blow a plug later. Also, it is the weak link, so it will generally blow before the engine is damaged from running it too hot (lean, out of gas, etc).  Last summer, a guy who never checked his spark plug during pre-flight blew out a plug, but the stripped threads were limited to those blown only after the plug had rotated out many turns. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
GT
Crankshaft oil seal behind the pull start coil is leaking oil. Unknown Using Silkolene Pro 2 fully synthetic oil. Ed Cartwright
edcartwright@ntlworld.com 
1999 GT
The nut on the back of the crank shaft behind the pull start comes loose and allows the magneto to spin which shears off the little half circle key (Wood rough key?) which sits half in the crank shaft. Replace the Wood Rough Key and tighten the nut. When this happens it allows your magneto to spin freely, thus your pull starter won't be functional and you would never get it to fire anyway. Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au 
 
Choke lever breaks off after age.
  1. Use superglue to fix the existing one.
  2. Take the pieces to a machine shop and have one made out of aluminum.
Be careful not to tighten the air filter bolts too tight. Roger Messerly aldude222@yahoo.com  

 

Engine

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Engine reaches 6200-6300rpm but no initial thrust at full throttle for first few moments. Sputters bad at all throttle settings, replaced plugs, changed gas and oil, checked compression. Problem getting progressively worse for approximately 21 hours. Belt slipping? Fuel line leaks? Dirty carburetor elements? Walbro carburetor should be tuned, cleaned and have the membranes changed yearly. Metering spring weak? Weak spring causes pop-off pressure to drop. Strong spring pop-off pressure will increase and mixture will be lean and prone to overheating. Sputtering indicates mixture is rich. Loose muffler lining? Internal lining    Alex Varv
alexvarv@ameritech.net 

 

1999 GT
Engine power varies minute to minute, followed by sputtering, reduced RPM and no power. Loose muffler lining? Fiberglass internal lining came loose causing back pressure. Check by taking muffler loose and shaking it by hand.  Another indicator was greasy looking residue, not just fine oily exhaust mist.   Gus
grant4ever@aol.com 
 
Upgraded GT to GTO using Tennessee Propeller 48x24
wooden prop. RPM's seem to drop from 6250 to 6000 from heat. 
Second, overheating is a known problem in all GTO configs.  Use large head if available.
  John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
 
Carburetor has a surge problem although being tuned. Obtain a product called Sea Breeze from NAPPA auto stores and add it to your fuel and cycle it though. This cleans the varnish and build-up in the motor and carburetor. Use 3 oz. to about a 1/4 tank of gas.   Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 
 
Engine will kill at high RPM's until you let off on the throttle, then problem would reappear a few minutes later.
  1. Open the muffler can and reweld the baffle back into place to prevent the insulation from blocking the exhaust air.
  2. Use a piece of wire up the exhaust pipe to pull out the insulation blockage.
One of the baffles inside the muffler broke free and allowed a small piece of the insulation to block the exhaust and kill the engine unless you'd back off on the revs then the blockage would clear,
to reappear some time again soon.
Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au
 
Motor will stall just as if it ran out of fuel when running below 3,000 RPM's. Possible air leak. Locate leak and fix with high temp gasket sealant.  Higher than normal RPM's could mean fuel/air mixture is leaner. If there is an air leak maybe there isn't enough draw at low Rpm's to pull fuel in the carburetor. The air leak may be located right where the black plastic carb manifold/collar meets the engine block. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com

Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 

 
General rough running Verify head nuts are properly tightened so there are no air leaks.   Great Pumpkin
thegreatpumpkin@cfl.rr.com 
 
Dieseling when shutting down from a flight Improper spark plug gap. Switching to Amsoil somewhat helped the problem also. Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 
 

 

Muffler

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Clamps that hold muffler on break. Cable tie the back of the clamps to your frame and/or replace clamps with stronger ones. This way even if they break they will stay fixed to your frame and not go through the props!

Clamps can come from truck supply companies that use clamps for exhaust pipes. They have spot welding, bolts with nuts, remove spacers that come with the clamps since they are twice as thick.

Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au
 
The tack welds that hold the core of the muffler come loose from vibration and allow the inside of the muffler to fall loose. Having the muffler rewelded and doing a prop balance job eliminated the problem.
It couldn't go anywhere but did cause a loss of back pressure and lots of noise. This can be detected by visual inspection of the small tube that exits the muffler by looking for cracks. Also look for small oil drops leaking from the tack welds. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
GT
Oil and dirt are messing up the cage mesh from the muffler exhaust (stinger). 
  1. Cut off the existing stub almost flush and weld an offcut which has a 45 degree bend on to the remaining portion of the stub.
  2. Order a "GT Tailpipe" from DK which clamps onto the existing stub.
  3. Use a 1/2" copper 90 degree elbow from hardware store. Use the gradual 90, not the short, tight 90, hacksaw the enlarged end off, so that the angle remaining is about 70 degrees. Cut several slits in the enlarged end so it will slip over the exhaust pipe. Clamp it on with a hose clamp.  Include changes in preflight check.
Make sure to have a professional do this so that the piece doesn't break off into your prop. 

Scott Fisher (skyrider@cfl.rr.com) recommends against this modification due to the problem with the inner core coming loose. See above.

Neil France n.france@ntlworld.com

Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au

Don Jordan
donjordan@bigfoot.com

 
The stinger (small pipe leaving the muffler) breaks loose between 50 and 70 hours of use. Weld it back on but also check the inner welds that secure the core of the muffler.      
Cracks keep redeveloping in muffler assembly. Vibration caused by prop imbalance.  Balance the props.   tisme@post.com  

 

Battery & Charger

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Battery no longer takes a full charge. Use a 12v automotive bulb to fully discharge their batteries once in a while. Not all the way to 0, since battery can reverse polarize.      
Battery charger fails Caution: Older batteries may destroy chargers when new batteries do not.

You can charge older batteries with a regular car battery charger, but you must be careful when doing so, leaving on too long and it blows up!  It will only bring the charge up to 12 volts, vs. the 14.4v it started with, but that just means fewer starts.  You have to monitor the charge process closely, and turn it off when the battery gets pretty warm. You can also check the battery with a voltmeter to see if you have the full 12 volts.

Nicad discharger and find that a 3 yr old battery still cranks and gets over 14 volts when charged after discharging it.

     

 

Starter & Electric

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Starter ring has cracked across one of its ''spokes'' (between two
lightening holes)
Replace component.   Neil France n.france@ntlworld.com  
master switch is too inaccessible. Replace with a metal aircraft type toggle switch on a new bracket. Locate in same place, so if you reach back and feel the petrol filler cap, the switch is touching your hand. Neil France n.france@ntlworld.com  
master switch comes loose in its mounting. Rebuild with a new type of toggle switch. Most people lose the small spring necessary to put this back together. Phil Carlos
para_pilot@hotmail.com
 
 
Kill switch and/or master switch is not functional.
  1. Check the master switch for possible problems.
  2. Possible back/harness pressure on a weak ground wire/connection in flight.
  3. The diode that is connected between the kill switch and ground in the hand throttle is malfunctioning, replace or bypass as it's not necessary.
  4. Use a slim cut down nail that
    fits inside the master switch spring.  When the button is depressed the nail makes contact and kills the engine.
Kill switch malfunctions when master switch has fallen apart.  This is probably due to a microscopic spring in the on/off switch that is not positioned properly or is now missing.

The master switch has three terminals. A center or common terminal and two poles. Both poles are switched on (closed) or off (open) at the same time. The pole on the kill switch side sometimes fails and is always open. 

Mark Cross
markj@optushome.com.au 

John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com

 
Tiny tach does not report correctly. You probably have a "2C" model, which is for the Tanaka 250cc twin cylinder and old Solo's, as it is for one spark per revolution of the crank. Whereas your GT sparks once near top dead center and once again at about 180.  You need the 1C model. Some are intended for four-stroke engines and will not work well on out two stroke models. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com

Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 

 
Spring that pushes pinion gear back after engine is started is worn.
  1. If the spring is just weak, stretch it out and reinstall.
  2. Replace with a comparable spring from hardware store.
  Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 
 
Starter button is not working A broken wire midway down the throttle assembly was causing a continuity loss. Replace the cable/wire.   Gus
grant4ever@peoplepc.com
 
Neither start or stop buttons function. Probably a common ground wire failure. Replace the master switch with a 3-pole switch. See detailed notes. Scott Alan
salan@cfl.rr.com
 
 


Fuel tank

Problem Solution(s) Notes Source Model
Cylinder head can get dangerously close to the fuel tank. The top bolt that holds the tank has room for a few washers that can act as a spacer to push the tank a bit further away from the hot cylinder head.  If you have had a few hard, on your butt, type landings. The frame may not be as straight as it was originally, after this impact. This modification makes it a bit of a pain to remove and put on the gas cap, but the added aggravation may be worth it in increased safety. John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
GT
Gas spills out when unit tips. Add a check valve to the fuel line to stop the gas leakage when this happens. Available from Paraborne Aviation for $5.   John Phillips
johnp@ceinetworks.com
GT
Fuel capacity is low. Order a larger fuel tank. Can extend flight distance to 35-40 miles! Mark
hopster_x@yahoo.com 
 
Cannot monitor fuel tank while in flight. Mount a small convex mirror on to throttle grip. Use caution to not allow throttle cable back into prop! When you are not holding the brakes in your hands it's possible for the throttle cable to work it's way back through the cage into the prop.    
Fuel leaks from vent hose when standing up.
  1. Do not tip as much when standing up.
  2. Do not fill fuel tank as full.
     

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